Sedoretu romance tropes

From a long ago post about an incomplete Nanonovel, the concept of romance novel tropes in a sedoretu.

As a quick refresher: a sedoretu originates in several of Ursula Le Guin’s short stories. It is a four way marriage in a society with moieties, in which the woman of the Morning and the man of the Evening have a sexual relationship, as do the woman of the Evening and the man of the Morning, as do both women, and both men. However, the two adults of the Morning and the two of the Evening are prohibited from a sexual relationship by an incest taboo that applies moiety-wide. The entire society as a result essentially revolves around matchmaking, and anyone whose gender or sexual identity is a poor fit for this is in a difficult place (see Le Guin’s Mountain Ways).

Luzula has one in Puzzle Pieces:

When she was a teenager, she’d devoured romance novels by the dozen. They were the type where the swooning Morning heroine and her faithful Evening friend and sidekick were abducted by an evil villain and then saved by a handsome mysterious Evening man, and then of course it turned out that the mysterious man was the long-lost love of the heroine’s brother, on whom her friend had had a crush all her life. And at the end of their adventures, the heroine and her friend fell into each other’s arms and realized that their friendship had turned into romance. And they all made a sedoretu together and lived happily after ever.

Arranged marriage/marriage of convienience: essentially universal, given the unlikeliness of four separate interlocking romances forming spontaneously. Le Guin deals with “please marry this person because you’re in love with this other person” in Unchosen Love, in which the protagonist is both being pushed towards his lover’s lover’s lover sexually, while also being socially rejected by his lover’s lover. There’s also: “please marry these two people because they’re both in love with this third person and three isn’t a socially acceptable number of people for a marriage”, “please marry these three people because they have a farm to share with you and we don’t”, “please marry these three people because the love of two of their lives just died and they don’t have sufficient children yet.”

Romance bet: two notorious rakes and famous rivals, of the Morning and Evening, make a bet with each other that they’re the one who can hold out on making a suitable match first. Each of them, naturally, falls in love with a delightful lady within days, and each spends the bulk of the novel trying to woo his beloved and scramble to put a sedoretu together while concealing her existence from his nosy friend. In the climax, it emerges that the two women have been lovers for years, and have been filling each other in on the whole thing. Not to mention waiting more and more impatiently the two men to finally realise their undying love and lust for each other and complete the foursome.

Secret parentage: two characters who seem to be members of the same moiety due to secret parentage/adoption fall in love, much to the horror of them both, and presumably scandalising their lovers of the other gender too. Of course, in the final act, all is revealed and their love isn’t incestuous after all.

Secret identity: a character has to go undercover as a member of the other moiety due to police work or some complicated clause in their parents’ wills (why not both?!) and finds themselves falling in love with individuals who are a moiety-brother and moiety-sister of their cover identity. Their actual moiety-sibling, who is also the only person who knows of their real identity, and also loves the same two individuals, watches helplessly due to the importance of the secret.

Healing love: a tragedy has struck a sedoretu with the death of one of its members. All three survivors have been lost in their own grief and the other marriages are on the brink of collapse, is the quiet visitor to the farmhold the answer?

Confirmed bachelor couple marriage: a Morning and Evening man have steadfastly held themselves out as a couple marriage for many years, to the despair of matchmaking uncles, nosy grandpas, and innumerable lovely pairs of women. Will this pair of mysterious strangers teach them what true love is at last?

Nanowrimo white flag

I’ve decided to bail on Nanowrimo-the-process.

I’m still very excited about the story, actually more so than when I began, and I’d really like to be able to finish it as a novella or short novel length work and share it! I still plan to.

And I’ve found out some useful things about myself; in particular, I actually can write at the Nano pace, and probably could all month. And I have such a lot of fun writing fiction. Very useful discovery process.

But. The writing has been taking me 1½ to 2 hours every single night. And about 60 minutes of that has been at the expense of sleep, which is not something I can skimp on for a variety of reasons. I really am not in a place to spend November pushing myself into cumulative sleep debt, because there’s no recovery time in the foreseeable future. I can imagine being able to do Nano in some future year, but this year is not it.

The word count is also stealing from other writing time I need and want. In particular, I’d like to post some more meta about the world of O, but it wasn’t going to fit into my day. Now perhaps it can.

So. I’m at 17079 words. Absolutely none of them would exist without Nano. It’s just not the right process for producing the other 15000 (?) that I need for a full draft. (I have a feeling this is a 30000–40000 word story, but I don’t really know.) So, this is my Nano white flag, but with thanks.

Also, given that I wrote 0 words of fiction this year before Nano, and 17000 in Nano, an improvement of infinity times, I think I need some kind of structure to get me to finish this thing, whether it’s some kind of modified Nano (average 500 words a night? one week in four is writing week?). Step one of leaving Nano is taking a solid week off writing and getting a bit of sleep. Step two of leaving Nano will be working out what that structure is! Step three is resuming writing.

Stay tuned!

Nanovel progress

I’m attempting the first draft of a fanfic novella/novel for NaNoWriMo this year. It’s more Ursula Le Guin fic; it’s set on the world of O, the original setting for the sedoretu concept. There’s quite a few sedoretu AUs, but not as far as I can tell any fic set on O.

I don’t want to spend too much time here when I could be making word count there, but in my last big writing project (a dissertation) I did find inconsequential blogging a little bit helpful.

So, a few things.

First, I’m a bit shy of 5000 words right now, which means of course that I need to up my daily word count. As of today, it needs to be 1800.

Second, I need to work out how a technologically advanced civilisation that apparently still uses upwards of 90% of its population on agriculture and completely lacks cities works, at least to some degree. There’s mention of Centers rather than cities, I’m not clear on what the distinction is. I think they may be universities without townships attached to them.

Third, why does Le Guin bother to specify in Another Story that brother-sister marriages are taboo? They’re actually a special case of the moiety taboo: all siblings and half-siblings would share a moiety (absent an moiety-incest violation, even half-siblings that share a father would be born to different women who share a moiety and therefore also share that moiety). I thought for a time she meant that a brother and sister cannot be on the same side of a sedoretu, but in that very same story, that’s what goes on to happen: Hideo and Koneko, full siblings, are the Evening spouses in their sedoretu. So that half-sentence bugs me every time. The moiety taboo is a society-wide sibling-marriage taboo to the point where you don’t need to separately specify things.

Fourth, it seems unlikely to me that there is really no word in the ki’O language(s) for one’s not-spouse, as in, the other person in the sedoretu with your own moiety. This person would be one of the most significant people in your life. They are married to the same two people as you. The potential for both teamwork and jealousy is beyond saying.

Le Guin doesn’t give a word, and the Mountain Ways introduction says “The forbidden relationships are between the Morning woman and the Morning man, and between the Evening woman and the Evening man, and they aren’t called anything, except sacrilege.” Funny to not acknowledge the intense and fraught social relationship there, especially since that story has the only example of it shown from the point of view character. (Hideo and Koneko in Another Story, per above, are siblings already. Hadri and Sasni in Unchosen Love are never seen to speak.)

And there would be two of these highly charged non-romantic relationships in every sedoretu. It almost makes me wish my story was about an established one. Perhaps some other time.

Yuletide 2014

I missed nominations, and while there’s something like 30 fandoms I’m somewhat familiar with, there’s only a couple I want to write in, and almost none that I can think of a powerful request for. Add in the constraint that I think I want to avoid giving or receiving Le Guin for Yuletide this year, I think I can’t play by the normal rules.

Luckily, treat culture is strong within Yuletide, and I’ve already found one great prompt I could write to. I can even check out Le Guin safely just in case I’m wrong and there’s something amazing there. Let the bookmarking commence!

Happy Yuletide author reveal!

And thank you again to pollyrepeat for my lovely Looper gift, laid out in front of her

My Yuletide assignment was:

Living the revolution (AO3, 5023 words) by Leaf Litter
Chapters: 4/4
Fandom: Hainish Cycle – Ursula K. Le Guin, The Dispossessed – Ursula K. Le Guin, Day Before the Revolution – Ursula K. Le Guin
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warning: Major Character Death
Relationships: Laia Asieo Odo/Taviri Odo Asieo
Characters: Laia Asieo Odo, Taviri Odo Asieo, Original Characters
Summary:

Laia Asieo Odo, between jail terms, tries to further the revolution.

Includes a time period featuring a violent canonical character death. No explicit violence.


Eep and hooray Hainish fic! Thank you for a great prompt, luzula. I have a comparatively large amount to say about the process of writing my assignment. And I want to make Yuletide recs too, even though it’s really more a Thing when they’re still anonymous. However, my personal resolution will be that it gets done by the end of January, or rather, what is done by the end of January is what gets done.

laid out in front of her (1609 words) by Anonymous
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Looper (2012)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warning: Author Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Characters: Sara (Looper), Cid (Looper)
Summary:

There was a boy on the front porch.

You should check it out if you enjoyed Sara and Cid’s uneasy and powerful mother-son relationship in the film!

I commented:

Thank you for the amazing Yuletide present!

One more minute, she thought, inhaling, sharp… One minute longer than last time.

Argh, Cid learning patience and self-mastery, poor little boy. I loved the moment of desperate humour too:

“That’s not the pot that mommy used for soup,” he told her.

“I love pots,” she said…

You’ve captured a lot in this story: Sara’s moves away from farming and back, away from motherhood and back. The short high-impact scenes are really effective in this fandom: very evocative of the mood of the film, and of Sara’s characterisation in it. Thank you again! It’s a beautiful story.

I somehow have even less time than last year, but I’ve grabbed a bunch of Yuletide fics in as fandoms I recognise, stuffed them on my Kindle, and hope to have read a decent chunk before reveals. Hope.

Dear Yuletide Writer

General things

Hello Yuletide writer! Thank you for writing for me, and I hope you have lots of fun, and that no bears head your way.

General

My AO3 name: leaflitter.

Additional background: my 2011 DYW letter, my narrative kinks.

An incomplete list of things I love: people who have tough relationships who make them work anyway, as you will see from some of my requests! I like any of world-building, plotty stories and character pieces, so you have a few doors to choose from I hope. In terms of relationships, I’m happy with stories from gen through to explicit.

Things I’d prefer your fic avoid: non-consensual sex, adult/teen or adult/child romantic or sexual relationships, on-screen torture. I’d prefer you avoid crossovers with canons I don’t know. I’ve spent too much time in/near hospitals this year to enjoy a fic that revolves around illness as a plot point (characters being ill or disabled: all good, I just don’t want it to solely drive the plot).

Hainish Cycle — Ursula Le Guin

Background: this is a series of speculative fiction novels. They don’t share characters or even worlds much, so for my request you could get by with reading the novella “Forgiveness Day”, which is in Four Ways to Forgiveness, and some Wikipedia etc background on the series.

My request:

Post-canon Solly and Teyeo fic, be it on Werel, or when she is sent to Yeowe, Terra or Hain later in her career. I am especially interested in the time dynamic in this universe: Solly has travelled across space several times and seen bits of 1000 years of history personally, and lived through revolutions. Teyeo has not, and does not have a cultural background that led him to anticipate any such life, until he marries and travels with her. How does she do it? How does he do it? Conversely, how do they draw on their commonalities, as people who have seen their societies upended?

The time dilation dynamics are one of my favourite parts of the Hainish Cycle, and they’re often underexplored, with a few exceptions. (“Fisherman of the Inland Sea”, for example, goes into it, as does “Winter’s King”.) Space travellers like Solly outlive their entire family by a few generations, and wake after their trip to find hundreds of years of new history have happened at their destination. It’s a dynamic I’m endlessly interested in exploring.

I definitely don’t need worldbuilding to be happy with a “Forgiveness Day” fic, but if you wanted to do some, then the fact that Teyeo will learn the fate of Werel, and could even talk to them in real-time via ansible, several hundred years after the Four Ways novellas, is a good opportunity.

I also love that in some of her recent Hainish works (Four Ways to Forgiveness, and The Telling, which is about a different world and doesn’t impact this request), Le Guin is dealing with massive cultural disruption in a culture that has only recently encountered the Ekumen. Teyeo is one of the few Four Ways characters who didn’t especially want to see a revolution on Werel, so that aspect is interesting too. So is the question of how or whether his prejudices about extraverted behaviour, overt sexual displays, or even interpersonal intimacies, change following his marriage and travels.

One note: I’d rather that the fic stuck with the (short!) description of their post-canon life that Le Guin gives.

Looking for Alibrandi — Melina Marchetta

Background: this is an early 1990s Australian YA novel. It’s the story of Josephine Alibrandi, an Italian-Australian seventeen year old dealing with her final year of high school and two generations of family history revelations all at once.

My request:

Post-canon Josie and Ivy fic. I think this is one of the major unresolved relationships of the novel: they’re warily allied at the end of the novel, but we know basically nothing about Ivy’s inner life and whether it is compatible with an ongoing relationship with Josie. All we know is that John Barton thought that Josie and Ivy were alike.

I would be thrilled with either femslash or gen. It could be set in their time at university or as recently as 2012 if you like (they’d be in their late 30s now), or anywhere in between.

A selection of Ivy things I think weren’t explored in the novel which you could use if you like:
– why she is a “confused being?” (John Barton’s description to Josie)
– her Catholicism: is it rote, is it deeply held, other?
– her politics: her family by the sounds moves in Liberal (conservative!) circles. Is that true of her too?
– she isn’t actually shown as having particularly close girl/women friends: it sounds like she relies on her family’s social status for a circle. Is she lonely?

There are a few things I love about this book. Partly it’s its Australian-ness. Partly it’s the optimistic view of family and friendships: that they can be really tough and full of pain and long-felt hurt, but that it’s possible to move to a better place (usually, because you find out the truth). But Josie and Ivy are only just getting there at the end of the novel, and mostly it’s because John Barton talked to Josie about Ivy’s insecurities. (I suppose there’s a prompt of sorts there: what did he tell Ivy, about Josie?) In repairing her relationships with the older generation throughout the novel, Josie finds that she’s grown apart somewhat from her friends and Jacob feels he’s grown apart from her. There’s not a similar move YET towards closer and also more adult relationships with her age peers.

Looper (2012)

Background: this is a recent release sci-fi thriller, featuring 2040s assassins of a kind contracted with an entity in the 2070s who sends its prisoners back in time to be excecuted.

My request:

Pre- or post-movie gen fic about Sara and Cid’s mother-son relationship. Either point of view (or third person, etc) is fine.

Some things you could explore if you want a specific hook:
– any conflict Sara has between caring for Cid and forgiving him for her sister’s death
– Sara’s own TK powers and their relationship to Cid’s
– what was up with her smoking an imaginary cigarette?
– Sara is, presumably, scared of him at times.
– more of Cid’s feelings about a formerly neglectful mother who he distrusts, and who hides from him inside a safe when he gets angry (however good her reasons!)

I’m all good with the canon levels of grit and violence, but I don’t want Sara/Cid incest (even implied) or 100% unrelenting stark tragedy.

I had fun with this movie. I’m a sucker for complex mother-child relationships. And telepathic/telekinetic powers! And time travel! So really this movie was pretty much my crack this year and it’s got a lot of holes to shoot fic through.

You might look at my narrative kinks and think “But Leaf Litter, you said ‘no ambivalent motherhood’. What is your problem? Argh.” Well, let’s call that one off for this request. Mostly the ambivalent motherhood I don’t like is reading tons about modern-day wealthy women who are ambivalent about motherhood. I will happily read it for Sara. Ignore my past narrow-mindedness!

Playing Beatie Bow — Ruth Park

Background: this is a early 1980s Australian YA novel. It’s another time-travel canon: a then-contemporary 14 year old Sydney girl finds herself in the 1870s, intertwined with the fortunes of the Tallisker and Bow families, thanks to an old family prophecy.

My request:

1980s or later era fic about what happens next. In particular, the Gift in Natalie Crown and any other girls in her generation.

Some ideas: how is the Gift is expressed and understood in a family that is (apparently) more-or-less cut off from its Orkney cultural heritage by this time? What is it like having it in a society where it would seem even more like mental illness than it did in the 1870s? What’s it like for Abigail, having seen it before, to see it again? Or is Robert Bow wrong in thinking that Natalie has the Gift?

I didn’t request Beatie as a character in this to give you a choice about whether to use further time travel/communication across time, but that doesn’t mean that I loathe her or anything. Feel free to include the 1870s era characters if it suits your plot.

Per my Looper request also, I’m a sucker for time travel, and for narrative loops like the recurrence of the Gift. And it’s another novel with a strong sense of place. Yay! I always wished Ruth Park would write a sequel, but she never did.

Yuletide nominations approved!

Looking For Alibrandi – Melina Marchetta
Characters: Josephine Alibrandi, Ivy Lloyd, Christina Alibrandi, Katia Alibrandi

(I wonder if anyone will nominate Saving Francesca/The Piper’s Son this year?)

Hainish Cycle – Ursula K. Le Guin
Characters: Teyeo, Solly, Sutty, Old Music

(I notice The Left Hand of Darkness is a separate fandom this year, at least so far.)

Playing Beatie Bow – Ruth Park
Characters: Abigail Kirke, Beatie Bow, Natalie Crown, Robert Bow

Just squeaked in

Got my Yuletide nominations in in the nick of time: all book fandoms this year and two fandoms that are as yet unknown to AO3. The third was the Hainish Cycle, because one year I hope for some Yuletide fic (or any fic) that is not for The Dispossessed or for Left Hand of Darkness. So I nominated a few characters from other books. I will get my Four Ways to Forgiveness or The Telling fic if I have to coordinate a fic exchange myself.

… which I have considered, frankly.

Status of the fannishness: overwhelmed

Sorry. Radio silence will continue for a fair while yet. I expect to have reasonable amounts of writing time in the latter half of the year.

In the meantime, here’s a Gont domesticity Earthsea fic that I enjoyed, but didn’t want to link during Yuletide as they were too close to my own story. In fact it was very influential on mine.

The Dragon Year, by firerose.
Earthsea – Ursula K. Le Guin
Flint, Tenar
Flint can no more comprehend his wife of a week than talk to a dragon